obama has instituted and the growth rate of this country, even if we do not spend another dime over what we spend currently, it will take 128 years to resolve those trillions and trillions of dollars that we know. i have graduate students that could not tell you what $1 trillion is. what makes you think politicians can? >> stay with us for a moment. i want to read you a headline from where our last guest was from. with the national economy ticking up, states are poised to finally rebound from the recession lingering revenue crunch. continued budget delays may dampen those prospects. for all the talk about the fiscal cliff, states already know what a free fall in revenue feels like. tell us about what you think kentucky is facing. you talk about the debt and the deficit, but how these federal issues affect your state? >> politicians tend to use political mouth. they use of false of bass lines and artificial parameters in which they said the equations. the congressional budget office is a political institution designed by politicians to protect politicians. it does not use genuine mass. th